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01:02:28 PM Start
01:03:42 PM Approval of Minutes
01:04:15 PM Badami Royalty Modification
02:23:27 PM Adjourn
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+ I. Badami Royalty Modification TELECONFERENCED
a. Presentation by Department of Natural
Resources (DNR)
John Crowther, Deputy Commissioner, DNR; Derek
Nottingham, Director and Jhonny Meza, Commercial
Section Manager, Division of Oil & Gas
Juneau: 586-9085
Anchorage: 563-9085
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                        
                         August 2, 2023                                                                                         
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ben Carpenter, Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Representative Mike Cronk (alternate)                                                                                           
Senator Click Bishop (alternate)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                             
BADAMI ROYALTY MODIFICATION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-provided a PowerPoint presentation,                                                                   
titled "Preliminary Findings and Determination Badami Royalty                                                                   
Modification," dated 8/2/23.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEREK NOTTINGHAM, Director                                                                                                      
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Co-provided  a  PowerPoint  presentation,                                                             
titled  "Preliminary Findings  and  Determination Badami  Royalty                                                               
Modification," dated 8/2/23.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHNNY MEZA, Commercial Section Manager                                                                                         
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Co-provided  a  PowerPoint  presentation,                                                             
titled  "Preliminary Findings  and  Determination Badami  Royalty                                                               
Modification," dated 8/2/23.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHALINDA WEERASINGHE, Commercial Analyst                                                                                        
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the presentation                                                             
on the Badami royalty modification.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
1:02:28 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BEN  CARPENTER called  the  Legislative  Budget and  Audit                                                             
Committee  meeting to  order at  [1:02] p.m.   Senators  Hoffman,                                                               
Kaufman,   Kawasaki,  and   Stedman   (via  teleconference)   and                                                               
Representatives  D.  Johnson  (via  teleconference),  Vance  (via                                                               
teleconference),  Tomaszewski  (via  teleconference),  Josephson,                                                               
and Carpenter were present at the call to order.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^Approval of Minutes                                                                                                            
                      Approval of Minutes                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
1:03:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be the approval of minutes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:03:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAUFMAN  moved that  the  Legislative  Budget and  Audit                                                               
Committee approve the minutes for  the June 28, 2023, meeting, as                                                               
presented.  There being no objection, the minutes were approved.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^Badami Royalty Modification                                                                                                    
                  Badami Royalty Modification                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
1:04:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be a  presentation by the  Department of Natural  Resources (DNR)                                                               
on preliminary  findings and determination of  the Badami Royalty                                                               
Modification.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:05:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR),  before addressing  the                                                               
presentation,   noted  that   three   respected  scientists   and                                                               
geologists that  were part of the  DNR family in the  Division of                                                               
Geological and  Geophysical Surveys  passed away in  a helicopter                                                               
accident while on  duty.  He acknowledged  their work, sacrifice,                                                               
and  contributions to  the state.    Their names,  he said,  were                                                               
Ronald Daanen, Justin Germann, and Tori Moore.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   CARPENTER  expressed   condolences  on   behalf  of   the                                                               
committee,  adding that  the members'  prayers and  thoughts were                                                               
with the families.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:07:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  noted  that  in the  history  of  the  department,                                                               
royalties were rarely  modified and there had  been few instances                                                               
in which  they were granted.   He  added that public  comment and                                                               
feedback  from  the  committee would  be  incorporated  into  the                                                               
preliminary  decision.     The  intent  of   the  Badami  royalty                                                               
modification, he said,  was to prologue the life of  a field that                                                               
had been producing on the North  Slope for some time; however, he                                                               
pointed out that, across its  history, [the Badami oil field] had                                                               
struggled  with  production.    He shared  his  belief  that  the                                                               
royalty modification would  result in direct benefit  in terms of                                                               
extending  the field  life and  revenue to  the State  of Alaska.                                                               
Additionally, he  highlighted a variety of  important benefits to                                                               
the department,  such as the  position of the  infrastructure and                                                               
the role  it could  play in future  opportunities to  develop and                                                               
maximize the value of state resources across the area.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:08:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEREK NOTTINGHAM,  Director, Division of Oil  and Gas, Department                                                               
of  Natural   Resources,  directed  attention  to   a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation   [included  in   the   committee  packet],   titled                                                               
"Preliminary   Findings   and    Determination   Badami   Royalty                                                               
Modification."   He  began on  slide 2  by offering  an executive                                                               
summary, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          Savant Alaska,  LLC, operator of the  Badami Unit,                                                                    
     submitted a royalty modification  application to DNR in                                                                    
     2021.                                                                                                                      
          The application  to reduce royalty is  intended to                                                                    
     prolong the  economic life  of the  unit as  per barrel                                                                    
     costs were increasing due to declining production.                                                                         
          DNR engaged  in an  extensive review  and analysis                                                                    
     process  of   confidential  financial   and  production                                                                    
     information provided by the applicant.                                                                                     
          DNR concluded  that, absent  additional production                                                                    
     from  new  drilling,  increasing per  barrel  costs  at                                                                    
     Badami  would likely  result in  the unit  reaching the                                                                    
     end of the economic field life.                                                                                            
          DNR   has  recommended   a  royalty   modification                                                                    
     mechanism based on monthly revenues.                                                                                       
          DNR  analyses  showed  that  royalty  modification                                                                    
     would extend  the life  of the  field with  an expected                                                                    
     increase in revenue to the State.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  identified the  field's remoteness  and reservoir                                                               
complexity  as   challenges  contributing   to  the   decline  in                                                               
production.  He reiterated that  the intent of the Badami royalty                                                               
modification  was to  extend the  life  of Badami,  a field  that                                                               
provided   infrastructure  with   strategic   value  for   future                                                               
operations on  the North  Slope.   After conducting  an extensive                                                               
analysis  and   review  of  confidential   financial  information                                                               
submitted  in  2021,  the division  concluded  that  the  royalty                                                               
modification should  be granted.   The  DNR analysis  showed that                                                               
the royalty  modification would extend  the life of the  field by                                                               
six  to seven  months,  which would  provide  the operators  with                                                               
enough  time to  improve production  and get  the field  "back in                                                               
shape" financially.   He proceeded  to slide 3, which  offered an                                                               
outline of the presentation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:14:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN  asked  whether  the word  "expected"  would  be                                                               
addressed  in the  presentation,  inferring  that [an  "expected"                                                               
increase in  revenue] could presumably leave  [the forecast] open                                                               
to a decrease in revenue.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  believed that it  would be addressed in  a future                                                               
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:14:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHNNY  MEZA, Commercial  Section  Manager, Division  of Oil  and                                                               
Gas,  DNR, resumed  the presentation  on slide  4, outlining  the                                                               
relevant  statutes to  the royalty  modification,  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          The   commissioner:  AS   38.05.180(j)(1)(B):  may                                                                    
     provide  modification   of  royalty  "to   prolong  the                                                                    
     economic life  of an oil  or gas  field or pool  as per                                                                    
     barrel or  barrel equivalent costs  increase or  as the                                                                    
     price  of oil  or gas  decreases, and  the increase  or                                                                    
     decrease  is sufficient  to make  future production  no                                                                    
     longer economically feasible."                                                                                             
          AS  38.05.180(j)(4)(B) "may  not  grant a  royalty                                                                    
     reduction  ? under  1(B) of  this subsection...of  less                                                                    
     than three percent ..."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          The lessee needs to:                                                                                                  
          AS 38.05.180(j)(2):  "make a clear  and convincing                                                                    
     showing  that  a  modification of  royalty"  meets  the                                                                    
     statutory requirements and "is  in the best interest of                                                                    
     the state."                                                                                                                
          AS   38.05.180(j)(3):  The   royalty  modification                                                                    
     mechanism "?  shall be based  on a change in  the price                                                                    
     of oil or  gas and may also be based  on other relevant                                                                    
     factors such as a change in production rate?"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:16:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked whether  the request from  Savant Alaska,                                                               
LLC  for  a royalty  modification  was  transferrable to  another                                                               
future company.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA confirmed that a  transfer was possible; however, such a                                                               
transfer would  not be  automatic and  must be  requested through                                                               
the DNR commissioner.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  shared  his understanding  that  future  price                                                               
projections  were utilized  in the  oil valuation  for a  royalty                                                               
modification  and asked  whether the  assessment was  done as  "a                                                               
point  in  time" analysis.    Additionally,  he asked  whether  a                                                               
larger  company  would  have  the   same  ability  to  request  a                                                               
statutory royalty modification.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA answered  yes, [AS  38.05.180] allowed  any LLC  on the                                                               
North Slope  or Cook Inlet  to make the  request on the  basis of                                                               
demonstrating   that   continuous   production  was   no   longer                                                               
economically feasible.  He acknowledged  that the applicant would                                                               
use  the  price forecast,  which  had  a  great impact  on  those                                                               
projections,  adding  that  the  department  used  a  variety  of                                                               
scenarios to account for that uncertainty.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:19:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA continued  the presentation on slide 5,  which offered a                                                               
history   of  prior   decisions   made  by   DNR  regarding   the                                                               
modification of royalty  rates.  Of the  nine formal applications                                                               
for  royalty modifications,  only  three were  granted, he  said.                                                               
The rest were either withdrawn by  the applicant or denied by the                                                               
department.    He  noted  that  only two  of  the  three  granted                                                               
applications came to fruition.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:20:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  directed attention to slide  6, which illustrated                                                               
the  location of  the Badami  Unit  relative to  the North  Slope                                                               
infrastructure.   He highlighted  the challenges  associated with                                                               
the remoteness of  the unit, noting that the field  could only be                                                               
accessed  by   personnel  via  helicopter   or  airplane.     The                                                               
transportation of  heavy equipment  was accomplished by  barge or                                                               
ice road  in the winter.   He explained  that the oil  from Point                                                               
Thomson flowed through Badami to  the main infrastructure, adding                                                               
that possible  prospects to the  south could  potentially utilize                                                               
the  available space  in  the pipeline  at  the Badami  facility,                                                               
making the unit's location strategic to the North Slope.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:22:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM discussed  the production  history  of Badami  on                                                               
slide 7, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          Badami facilities  designed for 35,000  barrels of                                                                    
     oil  per  day  (bopd).  Expected  peak  production  was                                                                    
     30,000 bopd,  but actual  production declined  to 1,400                                                                    
     bopdin 2003.                                                                                                               
          BP Exploration (Alaska)  (BP) suspended operations                                                                    
     from 2003-2005 and 2007-2011.                                                                                              
          Badami  reservoir has  always been  challenging to                                                                    
     develop due to compartmentalization.                                                                                       
          Historically  shown  very steep  declines  (around                                                                    
     1520%    average;  3050%    after   periods  of   flush                                                                    
     production, gas lift, and perforations).                                                                                   
          If not  for B1-07  well in  2018, Badami  may have                                                                  
     been at end of field life earlier.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  described the graph  on slide 7,  explaining that                                                               
compartmentalization of the reservoir was  causing the decline in                                                               
production.   He commended the  current operator,  Savant Alaska,                                                               
LLC, for  maintaining the  field and keeping  it in  an "economic                                                               
state" amidst the rate of  decline, which required difficult well                                                               
work  and  challenging operations.    He  estimated that  current                                                               
production was around  1,000 barrels per day,  noting that actual                                                               
production data  had not  come in  and was  not reflected  on the                                                               
graph.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:26:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER  sought to understand  the point at  which Badami                                                               
would  be  economically  feasible  in  terms  of  oil  price  and                                                               
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA detailed  acreage  and lease  information  on slide  8,                                                               
noting that  the majority of  leases had  a royalty rate  of 12.5                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER  sought to clarify  that the modification  of all                                                               
rates listed on slide 8 were being discussed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  answered yes.  He  proceeded to slide 9,  outlining the                                                               
department's  analysis of  Savant Alaska's  application based  on                                                               
statutory criteria,  which read as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          The applicant made a  clear and convincing showing                                                                  
     that  the  requested  royalty  modification  meets  the                                                                  
     requirements of AS 38.05.180.                                                                                            
          Savant:   Provided    sufficient   technical   and                                                                    
     financial information per AS 38.05.180(j)(6)                                                                               
          DNR   examined   cash  flows   models,   financial                                                                    
     statements,  and  production  profiles;  held  multiple                                                                    
     meetings with Savant.                                                                                                      
          Savant  provided  DNR information  both  initially                                                                    
     and during the review and analysis process.                                                                                
          DNR kept  apprised of changes in  circumstances in                                                                    
     the unit.                                                                                                                  
          Demonstrated  the per-barrel  costs increase  will                                                                    
     make    future    production    uneconomic    per    AS                                                                    
     38.05.180(j)(2)                                                                                                            
       The increase in per-barrel costs is mainly due to                                                                        
     declining production for current wells.                                                                                    
          Lease operating expenditures and general and                                                                          
       administrative costs expected to remain relatively                                                                       
     constant and not change with production.                                                                                   
          DNR reviewed current and historical data for                                                                          
        Badami to verify expectations for the short-term                                                                        
     future.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:31:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  whether the  provision of  technical and                                                               
financial  information by  the applicant  was dependent  upon the                                                               
company's size or wherewithal to produce oil.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  explained that  by  principle,  the department  mainly                                                               
analyzed the capability  of the field in terms  of production and                                                               
economic benefit.  Other considerations,  he said, were secondary                                                               
to that point.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:32:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER asked  how  much of  the  economic analysis  was                                                               
based  on  fixed   costs  versus  price  of   oil  and  declining                                                               
production levels.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  acknowledged that  it  was  an  integral part  of  the                                                               
department's analysis.  He explained  that in terms of status quo                                                               
production,  fixed  costs  played   a  significant  part  in  the                                                               
company's operating  costs.   If future  production were  to come                                                               
into play,  he said,  fixed costs would  no longer  determine the                                                               
viability of the field.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN  requested  the shut-in  price,  the  break-even                                                               
point, and  the price  at which a  royalty modification  would no                                                               
longer be warranted.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA indicated  that the  sensitive financial  and technical                                                               
information  submitted by  the applicant  was,  by statute,  held                                                               
confidentially by  the department.  However,  the "trigger point"                                                               
determining the reduction in the  royalty rate would be shared in                                                               
future  slides, providing  an indication  of what  the department                                                               
considered a  reasonable threshold to determine  the extension of                                                               
the field's economic life.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN pointed  out that  the Senate  Finance Committee                                                               
reviewed this type  of information often when looking  at the tax                                                               
structure of  a future field.   He  questioned the range  used by                                                               
DNR when dealing with royalties.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER conveyed,  for context,  that Badami  was producing                                                               
approximately  1,000 barrels  per day.   The  oil price  had been                                                               
considered  by  the  department  at  a variety  of  levels.    He                                                               
explained that  the proposed mechanics  of the  modification were                                                               
based on  field revenue and field  cost in a given  month, adding                                                               
that the threshold  and basis for the Badami proposal  was set at                                                               
$1.4  million.   When the  revenues associated  with the  field                                                                 
accounting for volume produced in  addition to oil price - exceed                                                               
that threshold, the royalty modification,  as proposed, would not                                                               
be triggered.   Therefore,  increasing production,  improving the                                                               
fixed  cost   per  barrel,  or  increased   revenue  would  avoid                                                               
triggering the royalty modification, he said.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:39:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER  asked members  to  hold  their questions  until                                                               
after the presentation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  resumed the presentation  on slide 10,  which continued                                                               
the analysis  of Savant Alaska's  application based  on statutory                                                               
criteria as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Savant:  Demonstrated  that  royalty  modification                                                                    
     would prolong the  economic life of Badami  Unit per AS                                                                    
     38.05.180(j)(1)(B).                                                                                                        
          Savant application  showed an extension of  1 to 3                                                                    
     months.                                                                                                                    
          Savant proposed  a royalty  modification mechanism                                                                    
     that was based on production only.                                                                                         
          It   did  not   meet   the   requirement  per   AS                                                                    
     38.05.180(j)(3) because it did not include oil price.                                                                      
          DNR royalty modification  expected to extend field                                                                    
     life by 6 to 7 months.                                                                                                     
          The  modification mechanism  is  based on  monthly                                                                    
     revenues.                                                                                                                  
          DNR   model   accounted    for   multiple   price,                                                                    
     production and possible shutdown scenarios.                                                                                
          Modification  is  in  the best  interests  of  the                                                                  
     State per AS 38.05.180(j)(2)                                                                                             
          DNR modification extends  life of field; generates                                                                    
     revenues,  both   State  and  local;   offers  indirect                                                                    
     benefits.                                                                                                                  
          Savant  application  offered  extension  to  field                                                                    
     life but did  not result in increased  revenues for the                                                                    
     State.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:41:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  discussed the key  results of 10 most  likely scenarios                                                               
for  price and  production  on  slide 11.    Based on  historical                                                               
determinations,  he  said  it  was  reasonable  to  believe  that                                                               
operating costs  would remain  at the  level consistent  with the                                                               
current  level of  production  under  the status  quo.   The  key                                                               
results read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Field life  expected to be extended  on average by                                                                    
     6 to 7 months.                                                                                                             
          Highest expected extension was  10 months for most                                                                    
     likely scenarios.                                                                                                          
          In  general,  higher   prices  and  more  forward-                                                                    
     looking  Savant shutdown  horizons  resulted in  longer                                                                    
     extensions to field life.                                                                                                  
          Extension  to field  life accompanied  by expected                                                                    
     increases in revenues to the State.                                                                                        
          Average   expected    revenues   to    the   State                                                                    
     approximately $145,000                                                                                                     
          Local  governments expected  to see  an additional                                                                    
     $540,000 in property tax revenue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  noted that the  earliest shutdown  without modification                                                               
was estimated  to be August  2025, whereas February 2026  was the                                                               
earliest  shutdown  with modification.    He  calculated that  on                                                               
average, the  expected revenues to  the state  were approximately                                                               
$145,000 as  a result of the  extension.  The figure  of $145,000                                                               
was further  split into  two "buckets"  for state  revenue gains:                                                               
those  related  to  the  royalty   and  production  tax  directly                                                               
associated  with the  Badami field  activity,  and the  estimated                                                               
savings from  delaying pipeline tariff  increases on  the average                                                               
extension of 7 months, amounting to $518,000.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:46:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA continued  to slide  12, which  detailed the  estimated                                                               
savings  from delaying  pipeline  tariff increases.   Should  the                                                               
Badami  revenues fail  to offset  expenditures,  the field  could                                                               
potentially   shut  down,   he  explained,   which  would   cease                                                               
throughput in the  Badami pipeline and a portion  of the Endicott                                                               
pipeline.    Consequently, the  absence  of  production from  the                                                               
Badami  field would  lower the  throughput  for other  pipelines,                                                               
leading to an  increase in tariffs for the  existing fields, such                                                               
as  Point Thomson.    Alternatively, extending  the  life of  the                                                               
Badami  field  would  extend production  and  higher  throughput,                                                               
which would prevent or delay the increase in tariffs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:49:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA reviewed the modeled  revenue results on slide 13, which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     On  average, the  State gains  revenue  in the  modeled                                                                  
     scenarios                                                                                                                
          While royalty revenues are  reduced as the royalty                                                                    
     rate is lowered, the  State gains additional production                                                                    
     tax and property tax revenues.                                                                                             
          Extending the  life of Badami, and  its production                                                                    
     throughput,    delays   pipeline    tariff   increases,                                                                    
     increasing  State tax  and  royalty  revenues on  other                                                                    
     oil.                                                                                                                       
          Overall,  combined increases  from tax  and tariff                                                                    
     revenues  more   than  offset  reductions   in  royalty                                                                    
     revenue.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA calculated that the  average state revenue was estimated                                                               
at $145,000.   He highlighted the  unquantified indirect benefits                                                               
on  slide  14,  which  read   as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Other Developments Around Badami                                                                                         
          Explorers   have   obtained  strategic   positions                                                                    
     around  Badami:  Lagniappe   Alaska,  LLC,  Oil  Search                                                                    
     (Alaska), LLC, and Balcony Natural Resources, Inc.                                                                         
          Extending  field  life   and  preserving  existing                                                                    
     infrastructure may be beneficial for new developments.                                                                     
          DNR analysis  shows that presence  of oil  and gas                                                                    
     infrastructure increases interest  in surrounding lease                                                                    
     sales.                                                                                                                     
          Any developments surrounding  Badami may result in                                                                    
     increased  throughput   through  the   Badami  pipeline                                                                    
     system, lowering tariffs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:51:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  continued to discuss unquantified  indirect benefits on                                                               
slide 15, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Future Investment Potential                                                                                              
          Without  new capital  investment drilling,  Badami                                                                    
     will be near the end of its economic field life.                                                                           
          Extending   field  life   maintains  options   for                                                                    
     possible future  development and  delays dismantlement,                                                                    
     removal, and  restoration (DR&R) costs;  royalty relief                                                                    
     will phase  out if revenues increase  due to additional                                                                    
     drilling/production (price, etc.).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Environmental and Social Impacts                                                                                         
          Extending  the life  of Badami  potentially allows                                                                    
     for  future  exploration   and  development  with  less                                                                    
     additional infrastructure construction.                                                                                    
          Savant  has a  proven track  record of  safety and                                                                    
     compliance  at  Badami;  Savant  has  20  employees  at                                                                    
     Badami with additional contractors.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:53:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA proceeded to slide 16, which outlined DNR's royalty                                                                    
modification   mechanism   as   follows   [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          DNR  grants  royalty  reduction, via  a  mechanism                                                                    
     based  on price  and production  (i.e., actual  monthly                                                                    
     revenue  generated  by  the  sale  of  crude  oil  from                                                                    
     Badami).                                                                                                                   
          Monthly  Thresholds are  based on  projections for                                                                    
     lease operating  expenses, field maintenance  & supply,                                                                    
     general   and  administrative   expenses,  taxes,   and                                                                    
     royalty payments, allocated monthly.                                                                                       
          If  Monthly Revenue  is greater  than or  equal to                                                                  
     Monthly Threshold, then the royalty rate is unchanged.                                                                     
          Royalty rate reduced only if Badami:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Monthly Revenues is less than Monthly Thresholds                                                                         
          Royalty  rate reduced  so  that  the benefit  from                                                                    
     royalty reduction  plus the monthly revenue  equals the                                                                    
     Monthly Threshold.                                                                                                         
          Minimum royalty rate is 3 percent.                                                                                    
          Subject to routine DNR royalty audit.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  reminded  the committee  that  the  monthly  threshold                                                               
represented  the  "trigger  point"  for revenues.    The  monthly                                                               
threshold for 2023  was $1.4 million, decreasing  to $1.3 million                                                               
in 2024-2029.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:55:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  concluded on slide  17 by  describing the terms  of the                                                               
proposed royalty  modification, which  read as  follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Royalty modification will only  apply to the seven                                                                    
     leases included in the Badami Unit.                                                                                        
          DNR  shall  have  the   right  to  obtain  expense                                                                    
     invoices  &  financial/accounting records  from  Savant                                                                    
     every six months.                                                                                                          
          DNR shall  have the right, upon  notice to Savant,                                                                    
     to terminate  the royalty modification  in whole  or in                                                                    
     part.                                                                                                                      
          Royalty modification shall  expire on December 31,                                                                    
     2030, unless terminated previously by DNR.                                                                                 
          Royalty  modification  may   not  be  assigned  by                                                                    
     Savant to  another lessee  without written  approval of                                                                    
     DNR Commissioner.                                                                                                          
          Royalty   modification   shall  not   be   applied                                                                    
     retroactively;  commences on  effective  date of  Final                                                                    
     Determination.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER invited questions from members of the committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  sought  to   confirm  that  DNR  could                                                               
terminate  the  royalty modification  at  any  time; however,  he                                                               
assumed  that   the  termination   could  not  be   arbitrary  or                                                               
capricious.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  confirmed   that  the  decision  would   not  be  made                                                               
arbitrarily.    He  alluded  to   the  thresholds  on  slide  16,                                                               
reiterating  that  DNR  would  maintain  its  ability  to  review                                                               
invoices and analyze an outlook  of "reasonable" expenditures for                                                               
the  field based  on the  comparison of  historical expenditures.                                                               
Should the expenditures  be much lower than  projected, DNR would                                                               
eventually find that in the audit, he said.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:58:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN restated his prior  request for the shut-in price                                                               
per barrel, opining that it shouldn't  be a secret.  He indicated                                                               
that the Dallas Federal Reserve  published monthly shut-in prices                                                               
for its fields in Texas.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER asked  why the shut in price was  not included in                                                               
the presentation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  confirmed  that  DNR had  access  to  the  applicant's                                                               
projected   operating  expenditures   and  production;   however,                                                               
according to  statute, the applicant  had the ability  to request                                                               
that   the  department   keep   that  information   confidential.                                                               
Nonetheless, he suggested that members  calculate a dollar figure                                                               
by  dividing  the  monthly  threshold  of  $1.4  million  by  the                                                               
production rate of 1,000 barrels per day.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:01:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER  remarked, "Your suggestion  to the public  to go                                                               
find the data and do the  math indicates to me that whatever data                                                               
point  their  using  to  come  to a  conclusion  to  answer  that                                                               
questions isn't confidential."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  replied that the  monthly threshold figure  was not                                                               
confidential;   however,  it   was   the   product  of   specific                                                               
confidential  capital operating  investments that  were necessary                                                               
to  keep the  field operating.    He added  that [the  threshold]                                                               
represented the  distillation and conclusion of  the confidential                                                               
information.   Nonetheless, he shared his  understanding that the                                                               
components could be generally extrapolated  with simple math.  He                                                               
shared an example in reference  to the Dallas Federal Reserve, as                                                               
mentioned by  Senator Stedman.   He offered  to provide,  for the                                                               
public,  a   table  of  hypothetical   prices  of  oil   and  the                                                               
corresponding volume of production to meet the threshold.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:03:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER indicated  that it  was a  good suggestion.   He                                                               
speculated  that  although  the  price of  oil  could  be  easily                                                               
identified online, the  public may have a hard  time figuring out                                                               
the revenue of the company at any given time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  agreed,  he  said the  department  would  look  to                                                               
provide that information and any  final findings to educating the                                                               
public.   He  explained that  the department  wanted the  royalty                                                               
modification to  be sensitive to  the price  of oil.   He pointed                                                               
out  that low  production volumes  and high  prices of  oil could                                                               
lead to a scenario in which  the field had revenues sufficient to                                                               
meet its fixed and operating costs.   He added that DNR wanted to                                                               
have  a structure  in place  that didn't  disadvantage the  state                                                               
royalty  in those  scenarios.   He  reasoned  that the  threshold                                                               
model,  reviewed   and  calculated   monthly,  would   take  into                                                               
consideration  the variability  inherent  to  production and  oil                                                               
price and protect both the  department in high price environments                                                               
and the  operator from shutting  in the field.   He characterized                                                               
the mechanism,  as proposed,  as an  insurance policy  to protect                                                               
both the  operator and the state  from down months and  to extend                                                               
the life  consistent with  the statute  while continuing  to gain                                                               
other benefits in the interest of the state.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:05:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI recalled  the Pioneer  royalty modification  in                                                               
2005,  which  was intended  to  get  the  field to  an  operative                                                               
status.   He questioned whether  it should  be known that  in the                                                               
future, the legislature would need  to subsidize fields that were                                                               
less than producing  and asked whether that  would become typical                                                               
of future royalty modification requests.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  pointed  out  that   the  Badami  application  was                                                               
intended to extend the  life of the field.  He  asked Mr. Meza to                                                               
list other [modification requests] in the same category.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA expounded,  clarifying that [Badami] was  the first time                                                               
this  particular  scenario  was  used   in  terms  of  the  field                                                               
approaching its economic end of life.   In general, he said, with                                                               
fields  getting to  a mature  stage  where additional  production                                                               
avenues  were declining,  it  was natural  to  expect that  there                                                               
could  be cases  in which  the  life of  the field  needed to  be                                                               
extended.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:07:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI said  he wanted  to make  sure that,  as fields                                                               
become   less  profitable   in  future   years,  the   state  was                                                               
consciously implementing a policy of  taking on potential risk to                                                               
the treasury.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER conveyed that he  had considered the implications                                                               
of  a  dwindling  resource  on  state revenue  many  times.    He                                                               
concluded that  these conversations would continue  if the desire                                                               
was to extend the finite resource.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN asserted  that royalty  modification was  a good                                                               
tool to extend field life;  however, companies should be asked to                                                               
waive  confidentiality  if  they want  a  contract  modification.                                                               
Additionally, he  suggested that the royalty  modification option                                                               
should be integrated  into the annual legislative  updates on oil                                                               
and gas,  adding that  the Badami  royalty modification  could be                                                               
used as  an example.   He requested  the tariff on  Point Thomson                                                               
per barrel.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  replied that the  tariff on the Point  Thomson pipeline                                                               
was public.   He estimated $18,  noting that he could  not recall                                                               
the exact number.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN asked for the tariff on Badami.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHALINDA  WEERASINGHE, Commercial  Analyst, Division  of Oil  and                                                               
Gas, DNR, responded that the tariff rate for Badami was $1.47.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:11:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON shared  his understanding that, compared                                                               
to  the other  applications, Badami  was an  incredibly low  risk                                                               
proposition.  He asked whether that was accurate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM confirmed that the  department viewed the proposal                                                               
as  low risk  with intangible  benefits in  terms of  high future                                                               
revenue to the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:12:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER  asked  whether  there   was  any  risk  to  the                                                               
throughput  from Point  Thomson if  Badami  were to  shut in  and                                                               
cease to produce.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  believed that from a  technical standpoint, there                                                               
was no significant risk to Point Thomson.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER  returned to  slide  11  and asked  whether  the                                                               
operator was on  board with the modification proposal  of a 6-to-                                                               
7-month extension.   Specifically, he asked  whether the operator                                                               
could pull  the application, as  other companies had done  in the                                                               
past.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  stated that the  operator had submitted  a letter                                                               
of support for the application.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:15:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER shared his  understanding that AS 38.05.180(j)(6)                                                               
authorized  the Legislative  Budget and  Audit Committee  to have                                                               
confidential  data  brought  before the  committee,  which  would                                                               
require an  executive session.   He noted that the  committee was                                                               
not  prepared  to  enter executive  session  today;  however,  he                                                               
advised members  to notify him  if there  was a desire  to review                                                               
confidential data in executive session at a later date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  inquired about  the timeline  and asked                                                               
whether the [Badami royalty modification] was time sensitive.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   CARPENTER  clarified   that   there   was  no   statutory                                                               
requirement  for the  Legislative Budget  and Audit  Committee to                                                               
approve   the  royalty   modification.     He   added  that   the                                                               
presentation  was informational  only in  an effort  to keep  the                                                               
public  and  the  legislature informed  of  the  administration's                                                               
decisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON sought  to confirm  that Savant  Alaska                                                               
would have to wait until January at the earliest.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARPENTER was unsure of the answer.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA stated that after  August 13, 2023, the department would                                                               
review the  comments and issue  a publication of  final findings.                                                               
Once the document was issued,  a prospective effective date would                                                               
be provided.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:18:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER returned  to  slide 11,  pointing  out that  the                                                               
earliest shutdown [of the Badami  field] without modification was                                                               
estimated to  be August  2025.   He asked  whether that  date was                                                               
confirmed by  the operator,  or whether it  was an  assessment by                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA confirmed  that the date was an assessment  by the state                                                               
based on  10 most  likely scenarios that  were considered  by the                                                               
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER pointed  out that  Savant  Alaska submitted  the                                                               
royalty modification request  in 2021, and now that  it was 2023,                                                               
he believed it was fair to ask when it would go into effect.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER agreed that it had  been some time since the initial                                                               
application was  filed, for  which there  were rationales  on the                                                               
operator's  side   due  to   significant  changes   in  corporate                                                               
ownership.   Additionally, he shared  that there was  a challenge                                                               
with   the  B1-07   well,   which   affected  [Savant   Alaska's]                                                               
operational plans,  as well as  how the state was  evaluating the                                                               
scenarios.   He  said  the department  aspired  to address  these                                                               
kinds of requests with alacrity  and focus; however, with Badami,                                                               
a series of intervening events  required additional analysis, due                                                               
diligence, and  clear and convincing  statutory standard  to show                                                               
that the  royalty modification  was in the  best interest  of the                                                               
state.   He pointed out that  if a shutdown was  perceived by the                                                               
department to  be inevitable,  modifying the  royalty on  the way                                                               
out  might not  be appropriate  to  earn final  revenue from  the                                                               
state.  Fortunately, he said, DNR was not in that scenario.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:22:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   CARPENTER  invited   final   comment   from  the   deputy                                                               
commissioner.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  thanked the  committee for  its insight  and input,                                                               
adding that DNR  would continue to go through  the public process                                                               
and  incorporate  the  feedback   received  today  in  any  final                                                               
findings issued by the department.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER  asked  where  the  public  could  go  to  issue                                                               
comment.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER directed  the public  to  the Division  of Oil  and                                                               
Gas's online portal.  He deferred to Mr. Meza.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA added that the department  issued a public notice on its                                                               
website, which  could be found,  along with an email  address, by                                                               
searching the keywork "Badami" or "royalty modification."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARPENTER  thanked  the  presenters  and  offered  closing                                                               
remarks.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:23:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  further  business  before  the  committee,  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee meeting  was adjourned at                                                               
[2:23] p.m.                                                                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2023-07-07_Best Interest Findings_Preliminary_Savant Alaska, LLC_Royalty Modification.pdf JBUD 8/2/2023 1:00:00 PM
DNR Presentation
2023 08 02 LB&A DNR DOG Badami Royalty Modification Presentation (FINAL).pdf JBUD 8/2/2023 1:00:00 PM
DNR Presentation
Badami Royalty Modification Request (002).pdf JBUD 8/2/2023 1:00:00 PM
Applicant Modification letter